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Sometimes I think, maybe I should use TrueNAS, and then I remembered that their C•Suite decided to give the 🖕🏻 to FreeBSD... the very same operating system and community of developers and engineers who enabled their company to exist from the start, to scale to the level which brought them success and growth and accolades from the OSS and enterprise storage communities alike.

So no, I don't use TrueNAS. Whatever many reasons they and their indolent fanboys push for moving to Linux, and I have heard them all, it's irrelevant. They didn't just bite the hand that feeds, they went straight over to the clown-show makeup meme table and slathered it on; trying so hard to convince everyone including themselves that this betrayal was the Good and Ethical thing to do.

Luckily there are alternatives, and those will get my time, engineering efforts, and fiscal support. One thing to remember: alienated users do not recommend those formerly loved products to their employers, they do not "spread the love" via organic marketing, and perhaps sometimes they dissuade when they would formerly embrace.

#iXsystems says unified #TrueNAS open storage software almost here
Fangtooth includes TrueNAS CORE and SCALE combined into TrueNAS Community Edition. SCALE was initially created as a #Debian fork of #FreeBSD based CORE, with each version continuing devt, bug fixes, and security updates independently. There are roughly equal numbers of SCALE and CORE users, with SCALE having doubled its system count over the year, and CORE “declining slowly” as users migrated to SCALE
blocksandfiles.com/2025/01/27/

Blocks and Files · iXsystems says unified TrueNAS open storage software almost here – Blocks and FilesThe latest version of the TrueNAS open source storage software will soon be available, according to iXsystems.

This weekend I learned that systems like are less limited by network bandwidth than by their backplanes. I'm only getting sustained SATA speeds of 400 MB/s over a 10 Gbps link when running unquantized models. That's unusable.

I'd expect a 10-wide RAIDZ2 vdev to provide better read performance than that, but apparently not with my current setup. I'm not yet convinced that an SATA enclosure would do any better.

Starting to write down questions and things to do so that I can migrate from TrueNAS Core to vanilla FreeBSD for my home server.

I suspect that this will be easier than I think (thanks to ZFS), but it's very worrying, especially since I don't have a good way to back up 1.25 TB of data.

Guess I'll have to buy a new beefier external drive.

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@TomAoki multiple separate overlapping of-topic discussions are inevitable at times such as this.

Partly off-topic, one of the things that I love about Discourse is the automated cross-referencing (linking) when quoting from one topic in another. Readers can be aware of the spread of things, with zero fuss.

There can be no cure for the few people who will not tolerate Internet links (to external content, beyond the bubble of The FreeBSD Forums).

That aside: a shift from XenForo to Discourse could, slowly but effectively, cure a fair amount of what's problematic – without admin/moderator intervention. True: the most hostile offenders might, in the early months of a transition, abuse the aspects of Discourse through which moderation is automated.

The optimist in me believes that Discourse is mature enough for such abuse to become apparent, and then easily stamped out. Result:

― a better community, for everyone.

Food for thought, <forums.truenas.com/>:

― the result of a swiftly executed, effective move from XenForo to Discourse.

#FreeBSD #iXsystems #TrueNAS # #Discourse #XenForo #forums #forum #discussion #abuse #troublemakers #narrowminded #clique #hostility

TrueNAS Community ForumsTrueNAS Community ForumsTrueNAS Community Help and Discussion

The TrueNAS hardware is very good, and I also am somewhat partial to the TrueNAS software (with some exceptions on why it's chosen to use Kubernetes and not just plain Docker).

But the company is downright odd sometimes. I had a number of issues ordering my current machine, and when this one came, it came with TrueNAS 13, rather than the current TrueNAS 24.

Worse yet, you can't just upgrade to 24... you have to upgrade to 22, then 23, and finally 24.

What silliness....

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I tried to migrate to TrueNAS Scale 22.04 few months ago, but bounced off it *hard*.

The new, docker-based approach to apps seems much simpler to use, and the ability to user docker-compose to create custom apps (I used it twice already) is a very welcome feature.

All in all, TrueNAS Scale 24.10 isn't perfect, but considering it's been out for about 10 hours, I think it can be forgiven. Congratulations to ixSystems!

4/4

#TrueNAS
#ixSystems
#docker

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Why not use the official plugin for TrueNAS? Because in the upcoming 13.3 release they have declared then to be untested and unsupported (alongside jails, which is just wild to me). I also find them more opaque.

At some point I'm probably going to end up needing to go to vanilla FreeBSD, but I find the web UI very useful and I'm not sure that the webmin port (seemingly quite outdated) would be a viable replacement.

I wonder if iX would consider maintaining port for the Web UI...

#iXsystems: No one is being 'marooned' by #Debian focus
From now on iXsystems will develop #TrueNASSCALE faster than #TrueNASCORE (#FreeBSD), with #TrueNAS CORE becoming more of a maintenance product. SCALE is based on Debian #Linux, termed a #scaleout product, and supports #Docker Containers, #Kubernetes, #KVM, #Gluster, and a wider range of hardware than CORE.
blocksandfiles.com/2024/04/08/

Long time #FreeNAS/TrueNAS Core user, my next build will be SCALE for sure