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I wish you were right, but with its "Joint Statement on the GNU Project" #Guix joined the shitstorm that back then was after #RMS head.
Back then, #Stallman selflessly left #MIT and #FSF to protect them from the mob justice, so that "joint back-stab", published in that specific moment was not just a sort of virtue signaling but a plain attack.
So much that, two years later 9 of those people signed the infamous "RMS open letter" calling "for the removal of the entire Board of the Free Software Foundation" that dared reinstantiate RMS and even for "Richard M. Stallman to be removed from all leadership positions, including the GNU Project" out of lies.
The powers in place in 2021 were quite evident: just look at the sponsors of the signing organizations to find Google, Meta, Microsoft and all of their friends.
CC: @ekaitz_zarraga@mastodon.social @civodul@toot.aquilenet.fr
Back then, #Stallman selflessly left #MIT and #FSF to protect them from the mob justice, so that "joint back-stab", published in that specific moment was not just a sort of virtue signaling but a plain attack.
So much that, two years later 9 of those people signed the infamous "RMS open letter" calling "for the removal of the entire Board of the Free Software Foundation" that dared reinstantiate RMS and even for "Richard M. Stallman to be removed from all leadership positions, including the GNU Project" out of lies.
The powers in place in 2021 were quite evident: just look at the sponsors of the signing organizations to find Google, Meta, Microsoft and all of their friends.
CC: @ekaitz_zarraga@mastodon.social @civodul@toot.aquilenet.fr
guix.gnu.orgJoint statement on the GNU Project — 2019 — Blog — GNU GuixBlog posts about GNU Guix.
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The #Guix leaders are indeed the reason I don't even give it a try despite some great people like you working on it.
I will reconsider when I'll read a public apology for this personal attack to a neurodivergent #hacker such as #RMS.
It worth to remember how that "joint stab in the back" was published while RMS was under attack because he dared defend Minsky's memory from the same sort of mob justice that was then redirected (and amplified on #BigTech social media) against RMS himself.
Some of those "leaders" who signed that "joint statement" a couple years later signed an even worse attack built on top of lies.
These sort of personal attacks have clear political goals, "incidentally" aligned with BigTech interests.
Now @zimoun@sciences.re could try to sort me among #Stallman fanboys to reinforce his beliefs, but in fact I'm pretty critical of RMS work: ultimately I think he based free software on a cold-war biased ideology, without a proper balance between communion (aka sharing strongly protected commons) and freedom. This huge error left space to #opensource and to the current use of #FreeSoftware by all sort of large corporations to abuse and subdue people.
Another (related) issue has been the total lack of a cohesive architectural design for #GNU system: RMS was too (inconsciously) fond of free market ideology to lead the movement's technically, and this lack of cohordination was turned by #ESR to the "bazaar" (not so subtle) sublimation of free market, to ease corporate exploitation of the high skilled labour of #hackers.
But in fact, with all of his political errors, he's still the most coherent and commited free software activist out there.
So I will consider Guix again when they will publish a joint apology with the same visibility the back-stab had in 2019.
The #Guix leaders are indeed the reason I don't even give it a try despite some great people like you working on it.
I will reconsider when I'll read a public apology for this personal attack to a neurodivergent #hacker such as #RMS.
It worth to remember how that "joint stab in the back" was published while RMS was under attack because he dared defend Minsky's memory from the same sort of mob justice that was then redirected (and amplified on #BigTech social media) against RMS himself.
Some of those "leaders" who signed that "joint statement" a couple years later signed an even worse attack built on top of lies.
These sort of personal attacks have clear political goals, "incidentally" aligned with BigTech interests.
Now @zimoun@sciences.re could try to sort me among #Stallman fanboys to reinforce his beliefs, but in fact I'm pretty critical of RMS work: ultimately I think he based free software on a cold-war biased ideology, without a proper balance between communion (aka sharing strongly protected commons) and freedom. This huge error left space to #opensource and to the current use of #FreeSoftware by all sort of large corporations to abuse and subdue people.
Another (related) issue has been the total lack of a cohesive architectural design for #GNU system: RMS was too (inconsciously) fond of free market ideology to lead the movement's technically, and this lack of cohordination was turned by #ESR to the "bazaar" (not so subtle) sublimation of free market, to ease corporate exploitation of the high skilled labour of #hackers.
But in fact, with all of his political errors, he's still the most coherent and commited free software activist out there.
So I will consider Guix again when they will publish a joint apology with the same visibility the back-stab had in 2019.
guix.gnu.orgJoint statement on the GNU Project — 2019 — Blog — GNU GuixBlog posts about GNU Guix.
"If the users don't control the program, the program controls the users. With proprietary software, there is always some entity, the "owner" of the program, that controls the program and through it, exercises power over its users. A nonfree program is a yoke, an instrument of unjust power."
— Richard Stallman
not sure if i see much sense in using licenses in the fight for software freedom since all "free" or "open source" licenses have limitations and none is really able to protect your freedom.
good luck maintaining a fork of the formerly floss program that just introduced a hard-coded run-time dependency on a proprietary, expensive other program!!1
we should focus on building trustful, care-taking communities (based on nested councils with imperative mandate) rather than licenses which, we hope, will prepare us to the juristic fight at a corrupt state's court against a billionaire's commercial company.
in turkish, there's the saying "ev alma, komşu al", translating to "don't buy a house, buy neighbors", meaning that you should not choose the software to use by reviewing its features but the community that maintains it.
(this also means that the fight for the removal of #rms from #fsf|s voiting board must continue.)
I didn't want to write anything about my thoughts on the #StallmanReport but, damn. I did. Though it is not about Stallman's views this time. I have already written those articles. This one about how, I my opinion ironic the whole thing is.
Blender DumbassStallman Report The Irony Of Concervative Leftists
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Blender Dumbass ( J.Y.Amihud )
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of course, it's not lost on me that 'we shouldn't cancel #stallman for unrelated stuff he wrote; that's all just a convenient excuse to get rid of The Only Man Who Can Save #FreeSoftware' is like their main argument, but the card says moops, and now suddenly it's convenient to tone police.
these people don't believe anything.
and it should be absolutely unambiguously abundantly clear that 'stallman wrote some weird shit 30 years ago' is NOT the thing at issue here. it is stallman's BEHAVIOUR and ACTIONS that have sabotaged our movement, hurt real-world people, created a culture that is unwelcoming, and cultivated a cult of his personality. none of which he has attempted to set right, none of which he has apologised for, and most of which he continues to do.
#Stallman should have retired a long time ago.
Hope it happens now: https://stallman-report.org/
The Stallman reportThe Stallman reportOctober 14th, 2024 Richard Stallman (aka “RMS”) is the founder of GNU and the Free Software Foundation and present-day voting member of the Free Software Foundation (FSF) board of directors and “Chief GNUisance” of the GNU project. He is responsible for innumerable contributions to the free software movement, setting its guiding principles, organizing political action, and directly contributing to a flourishing free software ecosystem. The majority of Stallman’s political activity has been of priceless value to society at large.
The thing that frustrates me about this is that the #FreeSoftware community wastes so much fucking time on #Stallman. So much time and effort is wasted on the eccentricities of one man, even though anyone with half a brain can see that this man is unfit to lead the social movement for our digital liberation.
And we are so utterly beholden to him. So much of our language and framing is Stallmanesque, sometimes undeservedly. My biggest pet hate is the narrative that 'you, the user, will be free if you use Free Software'. No you won't, especially not if you are not technically inclined. We are freed together as a community, not as individuals. The system of collaboration and the sharing of our digital infrastructure makes this thing liberating for all of us, not my ability to patch better Esperanto support into glibc.
And it's not like this movement needs a single leader, or that there aren't already extremely talented and dedicated leader figures in our community.
And it's not like there aren't problems with our community that aren't related to Stallman. There are so many people (men…) who make this community less lovely than it is.
But instead of lifting up other voices, or addressing other toxicity, we're stuck endlessly dealing with this one eccentric man.
The Stallman reportThe Stallman reportOctober 14th, 2024 Richard Stallman (aka “RMS”) is the founder of GNU and the Free Software Foundation and present-day voting member of the Free Software Foundation (FSF) board of directors and “Chief GNUisance” of the GNU project. He is responsible for innumerable contributions to the free software movement, setting its guiding principles, organizing political action, and directly contributing to a flourishing free software ecosystem. The majority of Stallman’s political activity has been of priceless value to society at large.
The #Stallman report https://stallman-report.org/
The Stallman reportThe Stallman reportOctober 14th, 2024 Richard Stallman (aka “RMS”) is the founder of GNU and the Free Software Foundation and present-day voting member of the Free Software Foundation (FSF) board of directors and “Chief GNUisance” of the GNU project. He is responsible for innumerable contributions to the free software movement, setting its guiding principles, organizing political action, and directly contributing to a flourishing free software ecosystem. The majority of Stallman’s political activity has been of priceless value to society at large.
I do not want to hear another man claim that #stallman's actions "aren't that big of a deal"
Acabo de ver el último vídeo de @autumn64 (https://video.hardlimit.com/videos/watch/c4f66068-23ba-4230-aa20-cb1c4bd89130) sobre la figura de Stallman, su posicionamiento acerca de ciertos temas escabrosos, y cómo salpica todo ello a la FSF.
Hace mucho tiempo que no veo un vídeo de divulgación tan ampliamente documentado y con un tono tan sincero y sosegado, tan ameno e interesante como este. Mis felicitaciones.
Les aconsejo que lo vean (o, en su defecto, lo escuchen) y que disfruten del estilo propio e inconfundible de Autumn64. No quedarán defraudados.
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@cyberlyra yeah, @report_press sadly isn't news.
The Problem is that the #FSF not only readmitted #RMS but did so in the most cowardly and dishonest way they could:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2SKenHRhMg (video via @ncommander )
#FACT: #FLOSS sucheeds IN SPITE OF #Stallman toxifying EVERYTHING!
I'm sure many have seen https://stallman-report.org/ detailing Richard Stallman's misconduct and how it and his enablers have harmed the free software movement. Much of this is not new but I was still shocked by a line early in the "Why publish this report?" section: "Women represent just 3% of the free software community, compared to 23% of industry programmers generally." Obviously not all of that disparity can be attributed to #Stallman alone, but his continued position of prominence is a symptom of a broader disease in the community's culture. Paying attention to these problems rather than turning a blind eye to them is a necessary step towards healing.
The Stallman reportThe Stallman reportOctober 14th, 2024 Richard Stallman (aka “RMS”) is the founder of GNU and the Free Software Foundation and present-day voting member of the Free Software Foundation (FSF) board of directors and “Chief GNUisance” of the GNU project. He is responsible for innumerable contributions to the free software movement, setting its guiding principles, organizing political action, and directly contributing to a flourishing free software ecosystem. The majority of Stallman’s political activity has been of priceless value to society at large.
I knew about a few things, but I had no clue of the actual extent.
Can we please stop worshiping anyone?
The Stallman reportThe Stallman reportOctober 14th, 2024 Richard Stallman (aka “RMS”) is the founder of GNU and the Free Software Foundation and present-day voting member of the Free Software Foundation (FSF) board of directors and “Chief GNUisance” of the GNU project. He is responsible for innumerable contributions to the free software movement, setting its guiding principles, organizing political action, and directly contributing to a flourishing free software ecosystem. The majority of Stallman’s political activity has been of priceless value to society at large.
@fsf I have just read as much of https://stallman-report.org as I can stomach, apparently this is not new information but it's new to me and many others. Richard #Stallman and the board and voting members of the #FSF who supported his reinstatement need to be replaced. This is heinous stuff to be enabling and trying to sweep under the rug.
CW for the report: sexual assault, pedophilia, necrophilia, bestiality
The Stallman reportThe Stallman reportOctober 14th, 2024 Richard Stallman (aka “RMS”) is the founder of GNU and the Free Software Foundation and present-day voting member of the Free Software Foundation (FSF) board of directors and “Chief GNUisance” of the GNU project. He is responsible for innumerable contributions to the free software movement, setting its guiding principles, organizing political action, and directly contributing to a flourishing free software ecosystem. The majority of Stallman’s political activity has been of priceless value to society at large.